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    • yes you are right, the dollar signs confused me too 
    • That's my guess too.
    • Beat Republican Party pretty well,  in the Summer Cup at Addington mid December, ( RP getting revenge at Invercargill Cup though soon after that . ) so they look set to have some great future battles for sure. they are both just getting better and better. Exciting times for their trainers. (and Nz harness racing) 
    • Or perhaps they are the deductions, but they should be shown as percentages rather than $ 
    • Mercurial in the Telegraph piqued my interest. Paying the same price as last year, drawn out a bit but that can be to advantage with the dogleg start.  Babylon B to lead, I think Mercurial can post up handy and the services of Miss Spratt are not to be sneezed at.  This is an open race....but 18s seems a decent price for last year's winner. 
    • Thanks.  That is what I thought - hasn't changed.  The deduction is a percentage of your horse's dividend, not a fixed amount in dollars/cents.  Therefore those amounts they've listed can't represent the deduction.  What are they meant to be?
    • My stab at this.  11 entries before this one which is not too bad considering the effort involved. Telegraph   - Skew Wiff Wellington Cup   - Interpretation Karaka Million 2yo   - Too Sweet Karaka Million 3yo   - Savaglee The NZB Kiwi (slot race)   - Damask Rose NZ Derby  - Willydoit NZ Oaks  - Leica Lucy Auckland Cup   - About Time Bonecrusher NZ Stakes   - Snazzytavi AJC Derby   - El Castello Golden Slipper   - Apocalyptic Doncaster Handicap   - Another Will Queen Elizabeth Stakes    - Ceowulf Stradbroke   - Briasa NZ Jockey Premiership 24/25 winner -  C Grylls Grand National (Aintree) - winner's saddlecloth number   - 16 Caulfield Cup   -  Buckaroo Cox Plate   - Via Sistina Melbourne Cup   - Jan Brueghel Everest    - Switzerland US SPORTS NFL - AFC winner   - Buffalo NFL - NFC winner   - Detroit Superbowl winner   - Kansas MLB - AL winner  -  Baltimore Orioles MLB - NL winner   - LA Dodgers World Series winner   - LA Dodgers NBA - Eastern Conference winner   - Boston NBA - Western Conference winner   - Denver NBA winner   - Boston NHL - Eastern Conference winner   - Carolina NHL - Western Conference winner   - Edmonton Stanley Cup winner   - Edmonton FOOTBALL A League winner  - Melbourne Victory English Premier league winner  - Liverpool English League Championship winner   - Leeds United Carabao Cup winner   - Newcastle FA Cup winner   - Chelsea Champions League winner   - Arsenal TENNIS MAJOR winners (men) Australian Open   -  Sinner French Open   - Alcaraz Wimbledon   -  Djokovic US Open  - Zverev GOLF MAJOR winners (men) Masters   - Aberg PGA Championship   - Scheffler US Open   - Schauffele British Open  -  Rahm RUGBY Super 15 winner   -  Chiefs RUGBY LEAGUE NRL winner  - Melbourne Storm CYCLING Tour de France winner  - Pogacar MOTOR RACING Grand Prix - drivers championship winner  - Norris Grand Prix - constructors championship winner  - McLaren Indianapolis 500 winner   - Newgarden
    • https://www.tab.co.nz/cdn/contentful/assets/3DlJY5b4U7H1bLT8S1ne0F/d3a413a60aef3984fcd2d4f274b025ba/RACING_AND_SPORTS_BETTING_RULES__Updated_18_December_2024_.pdf Page 13 has the deduction rules and page 14 the schedule of deductions  - not sure if this answers your question though
    • From their website: Q: How are deductions calculated?   A: To calculate the final dividend paid after deductions, please follow the below formula and example.     - Stake x Odds = Face value of ticket   - Face value of ticket x Deductions = Final Return Value of Ticket    - The deduction formula used is 80/Price of scratched runner    Example: If you have placed a fixed win bet on a runner paying $8.00, and another runner paying $3.00 is subsequently scratched after you have placed your bet, your selection now has a higher chance at winning the race. Therefore, deductions must take place to reflect approximately what dividends would have been offered had the scratched runner never been a part of the market. These will be calculated as follows    - $10 (Stake) x 7.00 (My selection’s odds) = $70 (Face Value of Ticket)   - Deductions of the scratched runner = (80/price of scratched runner) = 80/3.00= 26.66 = 26.6%.    - This means the face value of ticket will incur a 26.6% deduction   - The Final Return Value of Ticket in this instance will therefore be $70 x (1-26.6%) = $51.39    If the market was reopened for betting after a short-priced favourite was scratched, you would notice the remaining runners in the field would now be offered at lower odds.  
    • I'm curious about this one. The little snippet below is from Race 4 at Trentham tomorrow.  #5 Bellezor has been scratched and beside it's name they have in small print W $0.19 / P $0.16 I'm assuming this is meant to be an indication of the deductions as this horse was scratched after final field betting started?  But I thought deductions were a percentage of your horse's dividend and would therefore vary depending on how much your horse was paying.  The higher your price the higher the deduction in $ terms.  It shouldn't be a fixed amount? Have they changed the deduction rule?  Can anyone cast any light on these little figures?  
    • Mo'unga . He is a serious horse . May have not beaten a lot yesterday but the way he quickened was impressive . He's a star on the making 
    • I take HRNZ funded Stakes to mean exactly that, they funded the Stakes not ATC.
    • So what you mean to say is HRNZ spent $150,000 for GBR of $81,000? GBR fluctuates on the success of punters and favourites.  
    • All 60 horses are too high in the ratings?
    • Next stop - South Island.
    • Thanks John, I knew I'd need rescuing on some part of it, most likely the Soccer ⚽  I'll 'follow your Leed' and go for them, and run with your locals the Hurricanes for the traveling circus. Cheers, Phil
    • The Turnover for Alexandra Parks Million Dollar night on the 20th December was $955k, the GBR was, drum roll please,       $81k Oh by the way, the HRNZ funded Stakes are listed as $985,000, they were not all full fields, so they saved $15000. Well done Harness Racing New Zealand
    • Hey thanks for picking up those. My bad Yes  Sacred Satono  US Masters: Jon Rahm
    • Keeping up with the Northern Hemisphere theme, the wheel starts turning for 2025 with the start of the Carnival at Meydan in Dubai. Most Friday meetings from now on will be Carnival meetings on the way to World Cup Night in early April. The feature on the opening card is the Group 2 Zabeel Mile. This is worth NZ$ 250,000 to the winner and has drawn a decent field as you might expect. The Godolphin combination of trainer Charlie Appleby and jockey William Buick have a big chance with OTTOMAN FLEET and he’s the 6/4 jolly with the British bookies but the best of his form is over 1800m or in fast run races such as in America and between that and a lengthy layoff (not seen since August) he looks opposable.  DOLAYLI is top rated and this French galloper was fourth in the Ispahan and seventh in the Queen Anne so this is his level and he has claims. I much prefer course and distance winner SAN DONATO who won this last year and mixed it in championship grade over a bit further. He returned before Christmas with a second over 1400m at a non-Carnival meeting which should have left him spot on for a repeat win.  
    • No, I’m still in New Zealand for a while yet. I saw on yesterday’s Racing Post a report saying SERPENTINE had been retired. He was of course an English Derby winner in the unique circumstances of 2020 when the race took place behind closed doors on the first weekend in July barely a month after racing had resumed in Britain following the Covid lockdown. Under an enterprising Emmet Macnamara ride, SERPENTINE was pushed forward from the start and made every yard and although a twelve length lead at the 400m peg was cut to five and a half lengths at the jamstick, it was an extraordinary front running performance greeted in near silence. He was 25/1 and the second and third were 50s and 66s with the 2000 Guineas winner KAMEKO in fourth and subsequent exports to Australia such as ENGLISH KING and 2022 Melbourne Cup runner up EMISSARY behind. SERPENTINE was fourth in the Niel and the Champion Stakes and was then sent up in trip as a 4-y-o but was beaten a long way in both the Gold Cup at Ascot and the Goodwood Cup. Exported and gelded, he had a mixed time in Australia racing from 1600 to 3200m.  He won some races but his best efforts were when fourth in the 2024 Sydney Cup and runner up in last October’s Moonee Valley Cup. His final race was when fourteenth of fifteen in the Perth Cup on Wednesday. Most Derby winners go on to stud without racing too much after Epsom but SERPENTINE raced on for three and a half years.  I wish him a long and happy retirement.  
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