had to be!

Hi there    Go you lovely lot, go!!   GALLOPS Telegraph:   Crocetti Wellington Cup:  Smokin' Romans Karaka Million 2yo:  Too Sweet Karaka Million 3yo:  Savaglee The NZB Kiwi (slot race):  Damask Rose NZ Derby:   Bourbon Proof NZ Oaks:   Leica Lucy Auckland Cup:   Crouch Bonecrusher NZ Stakes:   Orchestral AJC Derby:   Broadsiding Golden Slipper:   Within The Law Doncaster Handicap:   Pericles Queen Elizabeth Stakes:   Ceolwulf Stradbroke:   Giga Kick NZ Jockey Premiership 24/25 winner:   Warren Kennedy Grand National (Aintree) - winner's saddlecloth number:   5   (Five) Caulfield Cup:   Zardozi Cox Plate:   Via Sistina Melbourne Cup:   Manzoice Everest:   Ka Ying Rising   US SPORTS NFL - AFC winner:   Kansas City Chiefs NFL - NFC winner:   Detroit Lions Superbowl winner:   Kansas City Chiefs MLB - AL winner:   Houston Astros MLB - NL winner:   Atlanta Braves World Series winner:   LA Dodgers NBA - Eastern Conference winner:   Boston Celtics NBA - Western Conference winner:   Oklahoma City Thunder NBA winner:   Oklahoma City Thunder NHL - Eastern Conference winner:   Washington Capitals NHL - Western Conference winner:   Vegas Golden Knights Stanley Cup winner:   Edmonton Oilers   FOOTBALL A League winner:   Melbourne Victory English Premier league winner:   Liverpool English League Championship winner:   Leeds Carabao Cup winner:   Spurs FA Cup winner:   Chelsea Champions League winner:   Real Madrid   TENNIS MAJOR winners (men) Australian Open:   Novak Djokovic French Open:   Carlos Alcaraz Wimbledon:   Alexander Zverev US Open:   Jannik Sinner GOLF MAJOR winners (men) Masters:   Jon Rahm PGA Championship:   Scottie Scheffler US Open:   Rory McIlroy British Open:   Ludvig Aberg   RUGBY Super 15 winner:   The Mighty Chiefs   RUGBY LEAGUE NRL winner:   Roosters   CYCLING Tour de France winner:   Tadej Pogacar   MOTOR RACING Grand Prix - drivers championship winner:   Max Verstappen Grand Prix - constructors championship winner:   Ferrari Indianapolis 500 winner:   Kyle Larson     Cheers John    and all the best to everyone taking part!  About to have some garlic bread to start my carb loading!  

yes you are right, the dollar signs confused me too 

That's my guess too.

Beat Republican Party pretty well,  in the Summer Cup at Addington mid December, ( RP getting revenge at Invercargill Cup though soon after that . ) so they look set to have some great future battles for sure. they are both just getting better and better. Exciting times for their trainers. (and Nz harness racing) 

Or perhaps they are the deductions, but they should be shown as percentages rather than $ 

Mercurial in the Telegraph piqued my interest. Paying the same price as last year, drawn out a bit but that can be to advantage with the dogleg start.  Babylon B to lead, I think Mercurial can post up handy and the services of Miss Spratt are not to be sneezed at.  This is an open race....but 18s seems a decent price for last year's winner. 

Thanks.  That is what I thought - hasn't changed.  The deduction is a percentage of your horse's dividend, not a fixed amount in dollars/cents.  Therefore those amounts they've listed can't represent the deduction.  What are they meant to be?

My stab at this.  11 entries before this one which is not too bad considering the effort involved. Telegraph   - Skew Wiff Wellington Cup   - Interpretation Karaka Million 2yo   - Too Sweet Karaka Million 3yo   - Savaglee The NZB Kiwi (slot race)   - Damask Rose NZ Derby  - Willydoit NZ Oaks  - Leica Lucy Auckland Cup   - About Time Bonecrusher NZ Stakes   - Snazzytavi AJC Derby   - El Castello Golden Slipper   - Apocalyptic Doncaster Handicap   - Another Will Queen Elizabeth Stakes    - Ceowulf Stradbroke   - Briasa NZ Jockey Premiership 24/25 winner -  C Grylls Grand National (Aintree) - winner's saddlecloth number   - 16 Caulfield Cup   -  Buckaroo Cox Plate   - Via Sistina Melbourne Cup   - Jan Brueghel Everest    - Switzerland US SPORTS NFL - AFC winner   - Buffalo NFL - NFC winner   - Detroit Superbowl winner   - Kansas MLB - AL winner  -  Baltimore Orioles MLB - NL winner   - LA Dodgers World Series winner   - LA Dodgers NBA - Eastern Conference winner   - Boston NBA - Western Conference winner   - Denver NBA winner   - Boston NHL - Eastern Conference winner   - Carolina NHL - Western Conference winner   - Edmonton Stanley Cup winner   - Edmonton FOOTBALL A League winner  - Melbourne Victory English Premier league winner  - Liverpool English League Championship winner   - Leeds United Carabao Cup winner   - Newcastle FA Cup winner   - Chelsea Champions League winner   - Arsenal TENNIS MAJOR winners (men) Australian Open   -  Sinner French Open   - Alcaraz Wimbledon   -  Djokovic US Open  - Zverev GOLF MAJOR winners (men) Masters   - Aberg PGA Championship   - Scheffler US Open   - Schauffele British Open  -  Rahm RUGBY Super 15 winner   -  Chiefs RUGBY LEAGUE NRL winner  - Melbourne Storm CYCLING Tour de France winner  - Pogacar MOTOR RACING Grand Prix - drivers championship winner  - Norris Grand Prix - constructors championship winner  - McLaren Indianapolis 500 winner   - Newgarden

https://www.tab.co.nz/cdn/contentful/assets/3DlJY5b4U7H1bLT8S1ne0F/d3a413a60aef3984fcd2d4f274b025ba/RACING_AND_SPORTS_BETTING_RULES__Updated_18_December_2024_.pdf Page 13 has the deduction rules and page 14 the schedule of deductions  - not sure if this answers your question though

From their website: Q: How are deductions calculated?   A: To calculate the final dividend paid after deductions, please follow the below formula and example.     - Stake x Odds = Face value of ticket   - Face value of ticket x Deductions = Final Return Value of Ticket    - The deduction formula used is 80/Price of scratched runner    Example: If you have placed a fixed win bet on a runner paying $8.00, and another runner paying $3.00 is subsequently scratched after you have placed your bet, your selection now has a higher chance at winning the race. Therefore, deductions must take place to reflect approximately what dividends would have been offered had the scratched runner never been a part of the market. These will be calculated as follows    - $10 (Stake) x 7.00 (My selection’s odds) = $70 (Face Value of Ticket)   - Deductions of the scratched runner = (80/price of scratched runner) = 80/3.00= 26.66 = 26.6%.    - This means the face value of ticket will incur a 26.6% deduction   - The Final Return Value of Ticket in this instance will therefore be $70 x (1-26.6%) = $51.39    If the market was reopened for betting after a short-priced favourite was scratched, you would notice the remaining runners in the field would now be offered at lower odds.  

I'm curious about this one. The little snippet below is from Race 4 at Trentham tomorrow.  #5 Bellezor has been scratched and beside it's name they have in small print W $0.19 / P $0.16 I'm assuming this is meant to be an indication of the deductions as this horse was scratched after final field betting started?  But I thought deductions were a percentage of your horse's dividend and would therefore vary depending on how much your horse was paying.  The higher your price the higher the deduction in $ terms.  It shouldn't be a fixed amount? Have they changed the deduction rule?  Can anyone cast any light on these little figures?  

Mo'unga . He is a serious horse . May have not beaten a lot yesterday but the way he quickened was impressive . He's a star on the making 

I take HRNZ funded Stakes to mean exactly that, they funded the Stakes not ATC.

So what you mean to say is HRNZ spent $150,000 for GBR of $81,000? GBR fluctuates on the success of punters and favourites.  

All 60 horses are too high in the ratings?

Next stop - South Island.

Thanks John, I knew I'd need rescuing on some part of it, most likely the Soccer ⚽  I'll 'follow your Leed' and go for them, and run with your locals the Hurricanes for the traveling circus. Cheers, Phil

The Turnover for Alexandra Parks Million Dollar night on the 20th December was $955k, the GBR was, drum roll please,       $81k Oh by the way, the HRNZ funded Stakes are listed as $985,000, they were not all full fields, so they saved $15000. Well done Harness Racing New Zealand

Hey thanks for picking up those. My bad Yes  Sacred Satono  US Masters: Jon Rahm