I like your thinking Zakhu , the single most important line in racing , innovation is required . But unfortunately if there is any it is purely up north , for the rest of us it is shuffling the deck chairs , the biggest innovation in the CD in recent seasons is the number of big races moved north . Myself personally I don't belief we have the number of quality of horses to sustain "Carnivals". The ones that some would say we still have are but are a shadow of what they were , I have championed "Iconic Days" for a while . Regularly run every 3 weeks and shared around the districts .  In the instance of the Wellington Cup meeting I would suggest we have an "Iconic" meeting . Consisting of , Wellington Cup Telegraph Wellesley  Levin Classic/Desert Gold  Thorndon  The rest of the card can be high stake lower grade races . The races missed have now become pretty low grade leadups , unlike years gone by , so these can easily be slotted in at other dates if they went with regular Iconic days . But certainly innovation that works for every body is a big requirement .

Regan Todd cut the number of horses in his stable to put more time into the top horses. I think the G1 horses need individual treatment and it's hard to give them that if the stable has many horses. It worked for Todd with his horses really making their mark this season. The industry is in good hands with some good trainers coming through, Todd, H & A Cullen, N Williamson

Dunn’s are quantity over  quality…quality  suffers due to quantity…little things missed….. Unhinged can advise his investment re return….. sent Spellbound to N Purdon to get group success… better return…. 

You do need to remember tomorrow isn't really a Wgtn meeting. It is a displaced Manawatu meeting. And the Telegraph is a displaced race, moved to suit Auck. No one in their right mind would start the Wgtn Cup carnival tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how many turn up. They probably won't have to worry about thousands of confused members of the public upset by the disappearance of their grandstand.

They are showing the quality (rather than quantity ) of their training ability.  First Class trainers they are and would put a horses with them No worries at all.  Setting horses for races and getting Big results. Mo'unga, Marketplace, and all his support horses are racing so well for Regan Todd. I'm sure Allstars giving him THE FIXER that time , helped him on his way and gain confidence in preparing good horses.  Cullen also with that huge Allstars experience for years , sends around a few runners that always seem to be a chance as he gets established as a Trainer on his own. OliviaT helping him no end too.  The Dunn''s stable with 50 odd horses going around at any one time in work,  is a bit like Grant Dixon here in QLD with 80 horses (because a couple of his millionaire owners breed them and he's stuck with them lol) and so they have several slower horses racing at slower places. surely they should step it up a notch?  (and scale back lol)  When really both those stables (Dunns and Dixon)  should just have Top stock to race and be more selective . VERY hard FULLtime work doing 50 and 80 horses with a gazillion staff ??  they could have less and do them better possibly?  like Allstars have for a long time as a leading stable. They should have Just have good Metro or Stakes winning horses like McCarthy, Barry Purdon, Emma Stewart , Hall's in WA, and Allstars have done for many years?? . forget about Nelson and places like that lol. leave that for the hobby and picnic participants to get some of the fun. they need a winner to keep interested in the sport.   

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Crap yr rite forgot the rules - will edit accordingly  THX

Neither would spend anything like Dunns have done in say last 3-4 seasons. Yet they are doing very well and are being rewarded with new owners and higher quality stock. M Pudon is more or less winding down his harness career by the looks of it although i hope he keeps selecting yearlings for stable clients because his record on that score was nothing short of remarkable

Your the one making it all up as you go by the looks of your posts. Make a statement and then leave it to others to provide an answer. Each to their own 

Totally agree…. Don’t spend millions at sales….  Win group races regularly…. Be cheaper per month than Dunn’s….. 

Some double up's Fox. Alcaraz in all three Tennis. Broadsiding twice some with Interpretation to win both NZ cups.

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All Stars still had a good season, earning $2.1m and UDR: 0.3745. Nathan has taken over and the stable lost a lot of experience with Mark and Natalie gone. Nathan is young and will make a few mistakes.  It's interesting to compare the UDR of top stables. Purdon/Phelan, $3.2m, UDR: 0.4195. Outstanding!! Regan Todd, $800,000, 0.3093. H Cullen, $700,000, 0.3375 J & J Dunn, $2.7m, 0.2660. I think Todd and Cullen stables will give the more established G1 trainers a challenge in the years to come. Both are excellent trainers and use top drivers. Good stuff.

Breeders' Cup berths are on the line in a pair of top-tier races Jan. 4 at Hollywoodbets Kenilworth in South Africa when the Cape Town track stages the King's Plate (G1) and the Paddock Stakes (G1).View the full article

Tomorrow commences the annual but modified Wellington Cup Carnival, it doesn't quite have the same feeling and I think the 3 days are in need of a massive revamp to try and peak interest. 3 big day's just isn't sustainable in NZ anymore, so we need to accept that and move on. I think the idea of having the first two days as major group day's and have the last day (presumably KM night) as a sort of low key innovation day for family to enjoy series racing. So below I have compiled what I think should occur to the 3 day carnival.    DAY 1 - Saturday Group 1 - Telegraph (1200m) Group 1 - Levin Classic (1400m) Group 3 - Phar Lap Trophy (1600m) - 7 day lead up to the Thorndon Mile Group 3 - Trentham Stakes (2100m) - 7 day lead up to the Wellington Cup Group 3 - Wellesley Stakes (1100m/1200m) - 1200m better to for 2yo's as a lead up to the KM Innovation Race - 1600m: CD trained horses that are MAAT can compete (similar to the innovation race at Ellerslie but gives CD trained horses/owners an opportunity without the big northern stables spoiling the party) Rating 75 - 1400m  Rating 75 - 2200m Rating 65 - 1600m Rating 65 - 1200m   DAY 2 - Saturday Group 1 - Thorndon Mile (1600m) Group 3 - Wellington Cup (3200m) Group 3 - Desert Gold Stakes (1600m) Innovation Race - Remutaka Classic (2100m) Innovation Race - 3YO (1200m): Similar conditions to Remutaka Classic, catering for all horses abilities and distance ranges Open Handicap (1200m) Open Handicap (2100m) Rating 75 (1400m): Druro Cup Rating 65 (1400m)   DAY 3 - Saturday (KM night) Mega Maiden Series - 1200m: MAAT horses through qualifying races Mega Maiden Series - 1600m: MAAT horses through qualifying races Mega Maiden Series - 2100m: MAAT horses through qualifying races  Open Handicap - 1400m/1600m 3YO Race (1400m) Rating 65 - 1200m Rating 65 - 1600m   Innovation is what is required.

I suppose they are one staff member down at the moment.