My daughters boyfriend 22yrs old & his mates are the target. They all have Betcha accounts, they are glued to their phones pre race watching odds changes, they have never heard of Lethal or care. To them he’s boring, mono toned & a turn off as he tips $2 shots consistently. They also don’t like the CD commentator as his picks are shit & he comes across a bit arrogant. The TAB guy who comes on with updates & market movers they find interesting & they love the hot horse concept. These young fellas have all started punting thanks to Betcha, they already think racings boring with the long gap between NZ races on a Sat, the last thing they want is 10 mins build up to a race with presenters who are barely awake themselves.

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I am a friend….a very early crow on all of this … for all stallions involved… so much emphasis on a stallion and little on the mare calibre… mares only have 1 foal a year and stallions so many… However, I do like this stallion for one of my mares. kodiac has done it from the ground up and is proven himself as a source of speed. HY a DUAL G1 winner @ 3 and 4 after being a G2 winner at 2 Hello Youmzain’s family / bottom line is made up of shamardal, Sadler’s Wells, Mill Reef, and a German family full of champion horses - slip anchor etc. so plenty to play with… so seems ok right!     

Mal Content - who is this Mal Content? Maybe a mate of Huge Ackman? 😄

So the idea of a 2000m race for 2-y-o seems strange to you? I get that. Oddly enough, we've gone the other way and our most important 2-y-o races are over 1400m and 1600m - it's only the coming of the Commonwealth Cup over 1200m at Ascot which has given a new lease of life to the sprinting juveniles. Even so, this year's winner, INISHERIN, had come off a sixth place in the Guineas.

A quick look back at last weekend's action. The Newbury meeting was badly affected by heavy rain and thunderstorms. On Friday, the ground deteriorated to Soft and by Saturday, following further rain, it was Heavy and this led to a spate of withdrawls with 27 coming out on the Saturday card. WITNESS STAND had run second in the Horris Hill over the Newbury 1400m as a juvenile so back over the course and distance in Listed company on Friday, he was one of the few who acted on the ground and scored a convincing win over ENGLISH OAK. Saturday's Mill Reef saw four late withdrawals including SHADOW OF LIGHT and SYMBOL OF DESTINY but the money came for BRIAN over POWERFUL GLORY. However, this was one of those instances where the market got it wrong as POWERFUL GLORY scored a convincing win over outsider LA BELLOTA. Winning jockey Oisin Orr commented after the race POWERFUL GLORY hated every step on the ground and it was only class and courage got him home. He's by Cotai Glory out of a Kodiac mare - Kodiac went on the soft if memory serves - so 1400m should be his optimum. Whether we'll see him again this season I don't know. The big handicap was at Ayr and a remarkable achievement by trainer Karl Burke to saddle the first three home in the 25-runner Gold Cup over 1200m. The winner, LETHAL LEVI, broke the track record running the trip in 1 minute 7.75 seconds. At odds of 20/1, 66/1 and 40/1, the Trifecta on the three Burke horses paid a cool £60,053.90 for a £1 bet - nice work if you can get it.

No you are wrong, sorry but from his FIRST post here he has just attacked, attacked posters attacked presenters and argued just to argue...so yes this is a forum and there are many reasonable posters who debate things rationally but sorry this guy just fights for the sake of it and sorry it aint gonna go on like this, its a forum for all and one bad apple aint gonna ruin that.. thats my opinion.hH has his views and could have had a decent discussion about them but he seems to know everything about everything  a few have got pissed with his attitude...fair enough too I am in the same boat...cheers.    

Saturday sees the first of the big autumn cards at Newmarket where the ground is currently Good, Good to Soft in places after overnight rain. It's a day dominated by the juveniles with the Group 1 Cheveley Park and Middle Park over 1200m for the fillies and colts respectively. They were once the most significant end of season juvenile races but the long er distance events such as the Dewhurst and the Fillies' Mile are now of more importance for the next year's classics. The coming of the Commonwealth Cup has, however, brought a new value to these races as markers for the sprinting juveniles for next year. 14 have been entered for the Cheveley Park and as you might expect the Irish dominate but it's not just Ballydoyle who have the fancied runners. BABOUCHE from the Ger Lyons yard is favourite having beaten WHISTLEJACKET (of whom more anon) in the Phoenix last month. That was a very good performance and in response Aidan O'Brien has entered Moyglare winner LAKE VICTORIA so England sees the clash of two Irish Group 1 juvenile winners.  The locals have Lowther winner CELANDINE who looks a sprinter while Morny third DAYLIGHT has been entered by Philippe Cotier and we know the French can win this race and Francois-Henri Graffard has also entered impressive Deauville maiden winner RAYEVKA. It looks an intriguing race on paper and we'll know more with final declarations on Thursday. 12 have been entered for the Middle Park and WHISTLEJACKET is Evens favourite with Betfair this morning. He won the July Stakes and the Morny and was beaten by BABOUCHE (as mentioned) in the Phoenix. He was fourth in the Norfolk over 1000m at Ascot but 1200m has been the making of him and his form is very strong. Aidan has four other entries including IDES OF MARCH who was an impressive winner of the Group 3 Round Tower at The Curragh last time. SHADOW OF LIGHT was taken out of the Mill Reef last Saturday because of the heavy ground and is a serious contender for the home team following his second in the Gimcrack at York. Again, we'll know more on Thursday. The Group 2 Royal Lodge over 1600m is a decent supporting race. As you might expect, this is for the staying juveniles and has a decent roll though it hasn't produced a Derby winner since the heyday of Benny The Dip in the 90s. However, Frankel won it in 2010 and GHOSTWRITER won last year so the winner is usually a decent 2000m type as a 3-y-o. Aidan O'Brien has nine of the eighteen runners and the best of his is probably ACAPULCO BAY. Early favourite, however, is LUTHER who won a Listed at Haydock over the ditance three weeks ago. WIMBLEDON HAWKEYE has placed in Group 2 and Group 3 races and were he with a better known trainer he'd probably be a shorter price and while I missed the early 20s, 13/2 looks a decent bet. If you fancy something more unusual, the Cambridgeshire is run over a straight 1800m and is likely to have 35 runners - they go 7s the field currently so I'll be looking for my best pin.

It seems to me you guys are hyper sensitive, having a crack at this guy bc he dares to have a different opinion.  It’s a forum ffs, pretty bloody boring if everyone has the same views!  Referring to earlier responses to Canterbury Man.

We do have 800m races mostly early in the season but our winters are getting later so it makes sense to push them back as most on here agree except for our resident mal content who argues about everything with everyone so take no notice of him.We do have shorter races for most of the season and some longer 1400m for our Group 1 sires in the Autumn, but overall most of the money 2yo races are 1000m or 1200m to a large degree.

Tuesday Big news on the first-season sire front: there is a new leader in the European rankings by the all-important metric of strike-rate of stakes winners to runners.  Step forward Hello Youmzain, who is enjoying a particularly productive September.  The Haras d’Etreham-based son of Kodiac came into the month with no stakes scorers to his name but he now has two, thanks to Misunderstood maintaining his unbeaten record by making all and being eased down to score by four and a half lengths in the Prix des Chenes at Longchamp on the 12th and Electrolyte edging out Polyvega to take the Prix Eclipse at Chantilly on Sunday. Misunderstood, trained by Mario Baratti for Etreham and Mustapha Bekhti, and Electrolyte, in the care of Archie Watson for Wathnan Racing, feature among 30 runners this season for Hello Youmzain, giving him a table-topping ratio of 6.67 per cent stakes-winners. The sire has leapfrogged the rapidly progressive Mohaather, who has delivered two black-type scorers from 44 runners (4.55 per cent), and the long-time pace-setter Sergei Prokofiev, who is two from 54 (3.7 per cent). Kameko is in fourth place by this measure, with one black-type winner from 34 runners (2.94 per cent), although he can be upgraded a little as that singleton is New Century, who struck at the highest level in the Summer Stakes at Woodbine this month. The son of Kitten’s Joy is the only freshman to have been represented by a Group/Grade 1 winner, and also has Acomb Stakes runner-up Wimbledon Hawkeye on his team. Sands Of Mali, who continues to exceed expectations with his inexpensively bred progeny, remains the only European-based first-season sire to have notched three individual stakes performers, with Ain’t Nobody earning upper-case black type in the Windsor Castle Stakes and Aviation Time and Time For Sandals reaching the places in the Windsor Castle Stakes and Lowther Stakes respectively. Darley sires Blue Point and Too Darn Hot left their rivals in the dust in last year’s European first-season sire race but the operation’s representatives this time around have been rather slower to make their mark.  Earthlight has one stakes winner – Daylight in the Prix de Cabourg – and one stakes-placed horse – Mr Lightside, third in the Molecomb Stakes – from 37 runners, while Pinatubo has no stakes winners but two black-type performers in Vintage Stakes runner-up Wolf Of Badenoch and Ascendant Stakes second Qilin Queen from 32 runners. He also has a Grade 3 third, Cavallo Bay, in the US. There is still plenty of time for the multiple Group 1-winning sons of Shamardal to shine, though. It would be a brave person who writes them off when they have so many well bred offspring to bat for them. Ghaiyyath, Darley’s brilliant world champion son of Dubawi, meanwhile has just two winners and no black-type horses of any kind from 19 runners. His progeny must presumably be more of a work in progress. Man of the moment Hello Youmzain shows that it pays to wait to get a full picture of freshman sire performance. He is by prolific precocity source Kodiac, was a Group 2 winner at two himself and was one of the break-out sires at the breeze-ups, with nine lots selling for six-figure sums, including Electrolyte, who was bought for £220,000 from the Goffs Doncaster fixture in April. However, his two-year-olds weren’t ready to roll quite as quickly as might have been assumed. His first winner didn’t arrive until May 7, when Allee De Bercy scored on debut over five furlongs at Chantilly.  He didn’t have a runner, let alone a winner, in Britain or Ireland until May 10 and he only got off the mark on these shores when Afentiko took a six-furlong Windsor novice stakes on his second start on May 25.  Tellingly, perhaps, the Paul and Oliver Cole-trained colt Afentiko has shown improvement after a long summer break. He won a seven-furlong Kempton nursery by clear water off top weight this month. Electrolyte, who was presumably finely tuned for his breeze at Doncaster in April, didn’t make his racecourse debut until early June, when he scored at Ayr on debut. In mitigation, the March-foaled colt is not from the sharpest family; in fact, he is a half-brother to ten-furlong Listed winner Steel Of Madrid and his dam is a half-sister to Gold Cup victor Rite Of Passage.  He finished a nose second in the Coventry Stakes at Royal Ascot a fortnight later – his sire’s only ambassador at the meeting, nota bene – and after lacklustre efforts in the July Stakes and Vintage Stakes also apparently benefited from a few weeks off, coming back to tough out victory in the Prix Eclipse on his first outing in 53 days. Misunderstood, Hello Youmzain’s other standout so far, was another breezer who has shown his hand a little later than might have been expected. Although, again, he is out of Waldjagd, who was Group 2-placed over ten furlongs in Germany and hails from the stout family of Masked Marvel and Waldgeist.  The February-foaled colt won on debut over seven and a half furlongs on good to soft ground at Deauville in late July, and has clearly taken a big leap forward this autumn on the evidence of his demolition job in the Prix des Chenes on soft.  A keen sort who has worn a hood on both starts, he holds an entry in the Prix Jean-Luc Lagardere, but his trainer said after his last race he would rather wait until next year with him, suggesting he thinks the colt has some maturing to do. The idea that Hello Youmzain’s stock might need a little time is reinforced by the sire having such a good month as the Flat turf season rounds the turn into the home straight. Besides Electrolyte and Misunderstood earning Group 3 victories, and Afentiko making a good impression in his nursery success, Beronia got off the mark for George Boughey at the fifth attempt at Ayr on Friday and Beau Gars made it third time lucky for Yann Barberot in a Craon maiden on Sunday. The sire’s most striking new winner in recent weeks, though, was Kullazain, a speedily bred colt who made 150,000gns at the Tattersalls Guineas Breeze-Up Sale but, in a by now familiar tale, only made his first start for James Tate at the end of August, when he finished a distant third at Ripon. He was a different horse on his next outing at Sandown, sauntering to a four and a half-length victory.  “We liked Kullazain at the sales but he was a bit of a baby,” reported Tate after the race. “We've given him time, but we learnt a bit at Ripon and he was impressive here. He'll be better next year.” Perhaps it shouldn’t be a surprise that Hello Youmzain’s two-year-olds require a little patience. After all, he didn’t make his debut until the middle of August in his two-year-old season and his juvenile stakes success came in the Criterium de Maisons-Laffitte in October. He trained on well to win the Sandy Lane Stakes and Haydock Sprint Cup at three and the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at four.  Furthermore, for all that he is by Kodiac and is a sibling to other talented sprinters Hala Hala Athmani, Jehangeer and Zuhoor Baynoona, there are stamina strains on both sides of his pedigree, too.  Kodiac is, of course, out of the Prix de Diane winner Rafha and the dam Spasha is an unraced Shamardal half-sister to Hampton Court Stakes scorer Persian Majesty from the family of middle-distance stars Slip Anchor and Sandmason. Spasha has also produced Deutsches Derby third Royal Youmzain and Grade 2-winning hurdler Saglawy, albeit they are by the far stouter influence Youmzain. More to the point, Hello Youmzain probably didn’t cover the deep concentration of commercial mares in his first season in Normandy at a fee of €25,000 that we are used to British and Irish-based sprinters receiving. Whatever the reason, the stallion’s progeny are evidently worth the wait. If he continues on his upward curve, he should remain close to the top of the European freshman table by the end of the season, and he also ought to take high order among the sophomores in 2025.  His second-crop offerings, two of whom are available at the Tattersalls Ireland September Yearling Sale which starts today, deserve to be in strong demand – especially now that trainers and owners have the advantage of seeing how his runners need to be handled. In truth, though, none of this year's first-season sires deserves to be out in the cold with prospective buyers, as the race to make it as a long-term commercially attractive prospect is still wide open. That might actually be the best thing for the market. Blue Point and Too Darn Hot’s domination of the freshman rankings last year was awesome to behold, and greatly enriched owners of those horses’ stock, but it was disastrous in rendering so many other sires’ second-crop yearlings unsaleable. So here’s to more twists and turns like Hello Youmzain’s recent emergence as proportionally the best source of stakes winners among his peers.

Amongst the many things I don't know about NZ racing is or are the distances over which you run juveniles. We have no races in the UK under 1000m - I thought you had 800m races. We used not to have 1200m races until the Woodcote at Epsom on Derby Day (early June) but the 1200m races now start in May, 1400m by June and by this time of the year we have 2-y-os going over 1600m and there will be a few 2000m before the end of the season. Oddly enough, there are fewer opportunities later in the season for sprint bred juveniles which I've always thought a bit strange but the view seems to be the later maturing juveniles tend to be bred for stamina. Do you also have races confined to horses who have never run in public?

Unbelievable, when all we need is proper roads, drainage, sewage and a few community but not over the top.

Where did I say his polices were the right ones?  I just explained where he is coming from. That describes most American Presidents doesn't it? Obviously he DID do something for the average worker or at least more than Biden did. Then why aren't the other partners in NATO spending as much as the USA on defence and supporting the Ukraine?  Or Taiwan for that matter?

That's a bit arrogant isn't it?

What a joke. His trade policies cost the country billions in subsidies to farmers who were suffering as a result of his war with China. He’s a Narcissistic, lying conman. He is first and foremost for Trump. He did nothing for the average worker when in office, why they think it will be any different this time round is a mystery. And allies tend to support each other, unless you fancy Putin, Xi and KJU running things…..🙈

Isn't that condescending and arrogant?  Most of the young people I know want information rather than slick presenters that don't actually say anything of value.  Most of the young racing people I've met in the last year in racing are very knowledeable and want more information from the likes of Lethal.  Weren't you at the KM nights where the "target audience" were chanting LETHAL or OPIE? So considering that most of the people that are commenting here are NOT in the "target audience for Entain" I guess you all mute the sound?