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Well what is it . All supposition , never had a horse answer me when I asked .
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So the punter gets taken for a ride again as the Stipes who like to blame everyone else, don't do there own job. How about some accountability. Whose head will roll. This is massive. They let a horse race in blinkers which hadn't been notified. How was it not picked up by the Stipes before the race? So we will just put a small note in on a Wednesday meeting and hope it is not picked up by the punter. What a joke!
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I think you'll find Canterbury Man is just ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, rather spurious !!!!🫣
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There is no evidence that it doesn't either . But if it doesn't make a difference why do jockeys keep hitting them ?????
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I have always thought this to be true. Figured it was the sharp money placed at the last minute, perhaps once the horse was in the parade ring or around at the start and the general public had a decent look over the horse in the flesh. Aquacade 2023 Auckland Cup a classic example - she was a raging fave paying something ridiculous and I remember standing at the parade ring watching her walk past a couple times being a real mongrel sweating up and very unsettled. Not something you wanted to see prior to 3200m and sure enough she starts drifting quite a bit in the market and doesnt run a place. The horses look and demeanour is often the last piece of info a lot of punters want to see before completing their analysis and getting a bet on. The key then is to decide how much weight you wish to put into those price moves when making your own decision on value.
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By racingoutsider · Posted
The US do it that way. The rule requires a jockey to allow a horse two strides to respond after every second strike, and a minor or class three violation – that is up to three strikes over the limit – is treated in the conventional way, with a fine and a suspension typically starting at one day. But for class two (four to nine strikes over) and class one (ten or more strikes over) violation, the percentage of the jockey's earnings goes up to 20 and 30 per cent, while the owner's purse is withheld. "What is interesting about the rule, and represents a new direction for the US, is that for a class two violation, you actually get into disqualification of the purse," said Lazarus. "It's important to distinguish that with the Hisa rule, that does not affect the parimutuel or the betting public. It is only with respect to the purse itself." -
By racingoutsider · Posted
And what if the jockey or connections successfully appeal? -
By say no more · Posted
Good point of clarification - yes tote dividends only. Too hard for me to validate and score fixed odds dividends. I'll amend the original post to make this clear. Thanks. -
By racingoutsider · Posted
No. Read the rules. "c) On each occasion the whip is used when the rider’s hand is off the reins, it will count towards the permitted number of strikes. -
Watched Races 1-6 at Pukekohe today. Lead in time to the races getting shorter and shorter. On a more positive note post race interviews with trainers and jockeys were very good today.
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MrBigStuff guilty as charged! Very rare for any trainer to have wins with two different horses with the same name.
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By chiknsmack · Posted
What's the land like between Omahu Road, SH2, and the river? I assume it'd be cheaper than the current racecourse land which is surrounded by houses in Hastings proper, and you could buy a patch that would fit a track with a proper 1600m start point. -
I think the above covers @Canterbury Man and his rather spurious question about tapping a horse a couple of times at the jump. Idiotic idea.
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Following the 2022 report into the use of the whip, the rules regarding the use of the whip in British racing have been revised. The basic rules for use within a race, implemented as of 13 February 2023 in Jump racing and 27 March 2023 in Flat racing, are as follows: The whip can be used a maximum of 6 times in a Flat race or 7 times in a Jump race. Any more than this will prompt the stewards to review the ride As well as the number of times the whip is used, The Whip Review Committee will look at the force with which it is used, whether it was used from above shoulder height, whether the horse has been given time to respond, the purpose for which the whip was used, whether the horse was in contention or clearly winning at the time it was used, and whether the whip has been used in the correct place (i.e. on the horse’s hindquarter rather than flanks) Any rider found to have contravened the rules or guidance will face a period of suspension, and any rider picking up a third suspension in a six-month period will be referred to the Judicial Panel for penalty. Should the whip be used four times or more above the permitted level, the horse and rider will be disqualified from the race.
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By scooby3051 · Posted
Look at the results many instances of a bias...just because one person claims it did not exist in one race dont mean it didn't....MOST that I have heard agreed their was a bias...jockeys, so called experts and trainers...I trust their opinions. -
Are you really that stupid to think it didn’t get an advantage when it won by the barest of noses? If everyone else is adhering to the rules and one jockey isn’t, doesn’t that constitute an unfair advantage? The other side of the coin is that you believe using the whip makes no difference in a tight finish. Which is it?
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