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By Rules For Some · Posted
I wouldnt be too relaxed. Support for racing generally in NZ is down. I think its a matter of time personally. It will be interesting to see entains response to this as greyhounds make up somethint like 42% of racing revenue in NZ -
Rules for Some already I believe there has been a trade off with Horse jumping races hence there is only 3 years of programming for them then that well be it Flat racing well stay the next century
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By Hedley Jordan · Posted
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=8595796400543500 Will Do -
The fun police are opposed to absolutely anything - read everything - that others partake in that may put a smile on their face. How they ever came to the conclusion that it was their right to make decisions on behalf of other people on what was okay to do with one's own time and money, and what wasn't, defies belief. I guess, in part, the lack of push-back in the early days of their movement only encouraged them. In the case of the puppies though, the support of banning them has been supported by basically all sides of the house, so they were never a chance. And while some will blame the fun police, others the government, l think in this case history will show GRNZ basically sealed their own fate by carrying on as if the decision to end them was no real chance of ever happening. They were wrong.
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By Rules For Some · Posted
I think many people knew it was a matter of time. Most had already given up the fight as those in charge didnt care/did very little. The actions of the past 3 years came to late. I think whats also concerning is that National and NZF voted for this ban to. What happens when the activists start coming for the horses. Ive already seen alot of comments saying thouroubreds are next. Im sure it wont be hard for them to try and find similar issues -
Yep, because GRNZ took too long to sort out the cheats and cruel buggers, and as a consequence the grass root trainers just couldn't compete. I owned a few dogs back in the day, and I remember my trainer getting really upset if any of their dogs got hurt. We had a really good sprinter once which ran fastest time when winning it's heat for the final. My trainer said she won't win the final, told me there were three or four dogs that will improve several lengths in the final, and it won't be natural improvement. Sure enough our dog ran her heart out for 4th beaten by 2 dogs she beat easily in the heats. I gave up on the dogs after she retired to my trainers couch.
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What effect will the closure of Greyhound racing have on Harness Racing? Not that long ago, Winston said that the decision was taking a long time because of the worry of legal challenge to a possible closure, like that which resulted in the decision being reversed in Australia, not sure why they think there won't be a challenge here now. Presumably Harness would gain a few more punters, but probably most would follow Aussie dogs instead, but the largest benefit would be from the redistribution of the Greyhound's share of the Sports Betting, between the two horse codes, which would be significant. I assume some dual code tracks would lose rental income from the dogs. But what would happen to the agreement with Entain, if you take away a significant part of their expected income? Would there be a clause in the agreement covering that possibility? It is also bound to have an effect, in time, on the treatment and traceability of horses from birth to retirement
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I sometimes wonder if animal safety is their sole motivation. I think there is an element of the fun police being ideologically opposed to gambling.
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Gosh you doggie people speaking up NOW on this great forum Sorry guys you have missed the boat. The writing was on the wall over a year ago ALTOUGH I did think straight racing was goig to save the day for at the least another 5 years me wrong. I'm not anti dog racing but How much weight was there behind the ban was because of the way the industry appears to treat dogs with broken hocks and toes etc the Greenies have said the its cheaper to put them down rather than treat and then retire the dogs
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Don’t forget the NSW government tried to ban greyhound racing a few years back but got so much backlash they relented. Could the same happen here?
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By BackPoonDrinkGoon · Posted
If you don’t know the answer to that then I can’t help you mate -
Question is , are Entain ethical offering a considerable amount of money to push for a monopoly by legislation ?
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So did Andy have this mare for breakfast, lunch or dinner? With Whitlocks to Watties tomato ketchup? And what about vegetables?
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By Rules For Some · Posted
Unfortunatly, most of the people that pushed for change left or gave up and those in charge have been to gutless to make necessary changes required. The stuff they have implemented the past 3 yrs needed to be implemented a decade ago and they failed. While they have somewhat improved welfare, they still let trainers breed 100s of dogs by themselves which is ludicrous. This wont go the same way it did in Aus either because GRNZ have killed the large majority of grassroot trainers out of the sport. -
By Aaron Bidlake · Posted
Yes surely they can't ban something locally then be happy to take money from the exact same thing imported. -
The industry had more than enough chances to up their game. But showed no balls when it came to getting rid of the cruel buggers, cheats and so on. Then just twiddling their thumbs for years when it came to dog welfare, safety and rehoming. Thanks very much to those that have helped with this demise NOT. I'm buggered if I know how they are going to carry on while gradually easing out ? .. industry participants, owners and trainers are likely to just walk. What about the purpose built tracks and facilities ? It's a logistical nightmare. There is no incentive for anybody to carry on during a phase out. How on earth can they rehome the hundreds and hundreds of racing dogs, let alone the already retired dogs. The government are going to have to contribute hundreds of thousands of taxpayers money to assist I would think.
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https://www.racenet.com.au/news/racing-minister-winston-peters-announces-plans-to-end-greyhound-racing-in-new-zealand-20241210-2
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By BackPoonDrinkGoon · Posted
Exactly, if it’s so unethical then wouldn’t it only be right they stopped taking betting on it immediately. -
Turn over comparison is very hard to work out these days. With bonus bets floating around. Years ago if I put $50 to win on something and it ran 2nd the money was gone! Nowadays on certain races run second and you get another chance with money back bonus bet. My point being when calculating turn over are clubs counting the $50 or $100?
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